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Author:  fletch [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:21 pm ]
Post subject:  1969 vh45 g130
as promised, some more details of my cedric build.
I bought it from my mate Ray, he was in oz for a few years before moving back to NZ. He posted a few photos of his 69 super six with rb30det turbo a few years ago (about 2008)

I got it late 2011 and this was it before i started anything. It had the big spring chop at the front and leaf flip at the rear thanks to Ray. 2.3L 3 speed column change, 6 seater
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Next to my housemates late 60's merc
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I was considering these wheels but they turned out to be too small to fit over the brakes
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fixed the rear leafs
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even got the mrs on the job
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Out with the old
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Crossmember strong enough for a truck!
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Stripping it out.
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Got this from sss engine importers
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took 2 days to rip out the essentials
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Chassis rails a bit narrow????
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The sump sits on the crossmember
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So off it came.
This handy lump of wood should be about the size of a new sump
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Now its too wide.....
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You can see the exhaust studs in this photo, there is only a few inches between the ports and the guard
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So out it came!
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A lot of stuff i wont be using, this pile kept growing
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Author:  fletch [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 1969 vh45 g130
Engine mounts version 1. A combination of the standard v8 rubber mounts and some wood
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Roughly where i want it but a bit too far forward
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Original gearbox crossmember bolted straight up to the gearbox! I had to move the crossmember back about 70mm, but it was easy as the chassis rails are straight and hollow.
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The rubber on the original mount was shot so i modified it to suit the v8 auto mount.
I had to narrow it by 2 cut off discs
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The gearbox is massive so i had to make that fit also
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Engine mounts version 2 consist of some mitsi diesel ute mounts, but the angles were not quite right
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Spacer for the mount to raise the engine and get the rubber on the right angle, and push the engine back a little more
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Stay tuned for engine mounts version 3!



Next job, exhaust.
There was very little room for the exhausts, It took a long time to get started but once i was on a roll iwas away. the rusty pipes were caused by me only working on the car 2 days out of every 8 when i was on shift
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Easy way to cut all the pipes to length! The saw did not like it tho
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Right side finished
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Left side was a lot easier
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Author:  BLUBRD [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1969 vh45 g130
:shock: epic build mate ...love it , always nice to see something different
Author:  fletch [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1969 vh45 g130
I had a bit of trouble with the front suspension.
The 130 and early 230 cedrics have a smaller taper on the lower ball joint and they are no longer available. I got the last right hand side joint left in australia from nissan and there are no left side ones left.
After a lot of research and trips to various wreckers i decided to run the later model ball joint which is identical except for the taper on the stud.
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from right to left,
130 left axle, 230 left axle, d21 navara right axle
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The d21 axle fits the later ball joint so its straight on! But the d21 is 6 stud. A bit of research on the us minitrucking forums shows they often convert to hilux hubs to get 5 stud so i grabbed a set of them from the wreckers.
You can see the retaining nut is not all the way on. I got 6mm machines off the bearing collar on the axles and now they fit perfectly
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The 4 pot gtr skyline calipers i have spare also bolt up nice
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I was going to run the d21 axles reversed so the steering arms were on the rear of the axle, but this means the caliper hits the subframe before i get to full steering lock. I am now running the axles on the correct side and a mate is cnc'ing me a set of steering arms to suit
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The hilux discs that came with the hubs are 257mm diameter. I changed my mind on caliper and am now running the 2 pot calipers that came with the v8. This means i need a 280mmx28m disc. The nissan x-trail front disc is a perfect fit after the centre is machined out to 83mm to fit over the rear of the hilux hub
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Its a bit rugged but will work well and im happy with it

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I need 16 inch wheels to clear the calipers, but after a bit of trial and error and i have decided to run 15 inch steelies from a falcon!
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Author:  fletch [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1969 vh45 g130
The steering box that all cedrics have would have left me no chance of fitting the vh, so it went in the bin ages ago
I decided to copy the RRS style steering rack conversion, there is a bit of information out there by some americans that have done diy steering rack conversions on their old firebird things.

I got the rack from a local wrecker as the RRS setups cost at least a grand
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It came from this high performance beast!
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Here is the rack mounted to the original steering mounts on the car
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There is a power version of the same rack but it is too wide, i think the wheels will hit it at full lock. Plus, i dont think i will be able to fit a pump and all the other crap you need.
I got a power steering unit from a holden barina or something and had a go at fitting that
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I am using a combination of the original column and the barina column
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Once i get the seat back in i will be able to chop the column to the correct length
The power unit is mounted to the stock pedal box that i have reinforced
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The steering shaft is a bit tight against the chassis rail, but i have a hammer that knows the answer to that problem
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My next mod is engine mounts version 3. I have decided how to do it with less engine movement for very little cost.
Hopefully this coming weekend i will be driving to brisbane to pick up my parts car i just bought and that will give me a bit more motorvation to do some more work on the car
Author:  wormtail1 [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:16 am ]
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sweet mate :thumbsup:
Author:  Bozo510 [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:48 am ]
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Sounds like you've got all the difficult parts covered!

I have to give it to you kiwi's, you just get on with the job and find ways to get things done.
Author:  stockymcstock [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:27 pm ]
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Epic dedication to the cause. Keep it up!
Author:  AVQR31 [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:02 pm ]
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Hey man well done so far, your skills leave me with no doubt we will see this cruiser/bruiser out and about very soon..

I tried to fit a 302 windsor into a 330, didnt work, not sayin it couldnt be done, just that i couldnt do it!!
Author:  ozconnection [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:03 pm ]
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"....and man, I pulled up next to this old car the other day at the lights. I think it was a Cedric, I don't know for sure, it was too !@#$%^& quick!! It was gone before I had a chance to have a good look....."

"Was it a turbo do you think?'

Nah....sounded different...heaps different......just like an 8"

"Like a small block?"

Na, not really, it sounded wicked but..."

:thumbsup:
Author:  ozconnection [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 1969 vh45 g130
Dave, are you seeing this! :shock:
Author:  fletch [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 1969 vh45 g130
thanks for the comments guys.
I wanted to fit a 6.2L commy motor and 6 speed as they are easy to tune up, just throw a cam, headers, air box, and a tune at it and your cooking. Also they are physically much smaller (narrower) than the VH motor, but they are way too expensive.

I hope to pick up the pace over the next few months and get it finished by feb next year. I have a parts car to pick up and that should increase my motivation levels sufficiently to get cracking again.

Tomorrow i think i will rip the diff out as its shagged and get a measurement. I think i have the 3.9 ratio diff and i want to run a 3.5 or 3.6. it will be a borg warner falcon or commy diff, or maybe r31, and possibly an lsd?
Author:  Dato200B [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:43 pm ]
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Love this car. Really good work stick with it.
Author:  Gary510 [ Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:09 am ]
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hot damn thats cool as sh*t

exactly what id love to do for a datsun like this

damn those 8's are massive
Author:  Hezath [ Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:54 am ]
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Tricky conversion but you seem to be powering through it. Looks like the car's in good hands :)
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