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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:12 pm 
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Found this on another forum, need to work out how to shoehorn one of these engines into a 1600 :lol:

First, some useful info:
* One Top Fuel dragster 500 cubic inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower
than the first 4 rows at the Daytona 500.
* Under full throttle, a Top Fuel dragster engine consumes 1½ gallons of
nitromethane per second; a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same
rate with 25% less energy being produced.
* A stock Dodge 426 Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive
the dragster's supercharger.
* With 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive,
the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition.
Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.
* At the stoichiometric 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture for nitromethane the flame
front temperature measures 7050 degrees F.
* Nitromethane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the
stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric
water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.
* Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of
an arc welder in each cylinder.
* Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After 1/2 way,
the engine is dieseling from compression plus the glow of exhaust valves
at 1400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow.
* If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in
the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow
cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.
* In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds dragsters must accelerate at
an average of over 4G's. In order to reach 200 mph well before half-track,
the launch acceleration approaches 8G's.
* Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have completed
reading this sentence.
* Top Fuel Engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light!
* Including the burnout the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under
load.
* The red-line is actually quite high at 9500 rpm.
* The Bottom Line; Assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked
for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimated
US$1,000.00 per second. The current Top Fuel dragster elapsed time record
is 4.441 seconds for the quarter mile (10/05/03, Tony Schumacher). The top
speed record is 333.00 mph (533 km/h) as measured over the last 66' of the
run (09/28/03 Doug Kalitta).

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:32 pm 
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amazing isn't it!!

what baffles me is that the engine only rotates 540 times, even though it's sitting at around 9,000rpm, dont realise it does so little complete revolutions on the whole run until you do the math

hydraulic lock part is interesting

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:49 am 
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Freaken crazy...

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:22 am 
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I Like Drift wrote:
amazing isn't it!!

what baffles me is that the engine only rotates 540 times, even though it's sitting at around 9,000rpm, dont realise it does so little complete revolutions on the whole run until you do the math
wouldn't that have something to do with the long rods and big long stroked crank etc to be 500+ CI ? but if the motor sits on 9000 Revolutions Per MINUTE and it only takes 4.5 seconds to get the car 400 metres + burnout.. you do the math ?

9000 x 60 = 540,000 RPS and from there my brain over loaded with to much maths and i could only work out that it had something to do with dividing it by 1000 to = 540 rotations :lol: :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:43 am 
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Datsun_16_Hundred wrote:
9000 x 60 = 540,000 RPS and from there my brain over loaded with to much maths and i could only work out that it had something to do with dividing it by 1000 to = 540 rotations :lol: :wink:
its....9000/60 = 150 RPS
150 RPS x 4.5sec = 675revolutions ???

but 540/150 = 3.6 sec
so to do 540 rev from light to light.....they would be doing it in 3.6sec.....to do it in 4.5sec, it would take 675 revolutions

to get it right.....
540/4.5 = 120 RPS

120 x 60 = 7200 RPM
so to do 540rev light to light, in 4.5 sec....they would need to average about 7200RPM

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:41 pm 
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no need to do the math, i completely understand why it only does that many revolutions down the dragstrip, it's just that i didn't look at it that way, compared to normal everyday use

lol at 16hundred's maths

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:49 pm 
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blame it on being tired, esp at 2am

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