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Author:  Bozo510 [ Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:21 pm ]
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I had a sss reverse 5 speed in my old 1600, took 5 years of complete punishment before breaking, so they are strong enough.

Author:  Lurch [ Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:11 am ]
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Errol at DatRats has a R30 box for sale:
http://datrats.com.au/ITEMS%20FOR%20SALE.htm

Might be a wee bit out of your budget though...

Author:  Dave [ Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:25 am ]
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I've got a Stanza SSS 5 speed in my 1600, behind a mild L18.

Its taken some punishment as a rally car before I got it, I thrashed it round the street for quite a few years, and now its doing track day duties. Never had a problem, still shifts really nicely.

Author:  SR20Datsun [ Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:07 pm ]
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I'd sell you my R30 gearbox ($350 ono) that I had in my car before I ripped it out, but i don't like the chances of mailing it up there :D

Author:  Stoney [ Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:06 pm ]
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and i sold mine for $150, oh well

Author:  SR20Datsun [ Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:12 pm ]
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Damn,

Should have bought it myself, and replaced the bearings, sinchro on 3rd, oh wait a second... that's what I did already :impatient:

Author:  Stoney [ Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:15 pm ]
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wasn't having a go at you, i just never got an answer on what they were worth and sold it for that price, my loss, someone elses gain

Author:  Stephen [ Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:14 pm ]
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Cheers for the replys fellaz,
godzilladat wrote:
I had a sss reverse 5 speed in my old 1600, took 5 years of complete punishment before breaking, so they are strong enough.
Well thats about aslong as i plan to use the box for.. and it should last longer if its been fully rebuilt but for the price its gona cos to rebuild my SSS i could probably get Nick's R30 posted up.. :( decisions decisions..
Lurch wrote:
Errol at DatRats has a R30 box for sale:
http://datrats.com.au/ITEMS%20FOR%20SALE.htm

Might be a wee bit out of your budget though...
Just a tad :wink: :thumbsup: cheers anyway.
Dave wrote:
I've got a Stanza SSS 5 speed in my 1600, behind a mild L18.

Its taken some punishment as a rally car before I got it, I thrashed it round the street for quite a few years, and now its doing track day duties. Never had a problem, still shifts really nicely.
Well your car Dave was the first one that came to my mine when i thought about my SSS.."daves got one in his track car and it has survived its track day useage and daily :D"

So many pros n cons.... :?
SR20Datsun wrote:
I'd sell you my R30 gearbox ($350 ono) that I had in my car before I ripped it out, but i don't like the chances of mailing it up there :D
Im considering it .. but it would have to be after christmas.. have you still got the box ?
postage shouldn't be too bad if you can strap it to a pallet and put it on a truck :D .

Btw, i just went an picked up my early :) christmas presents off my parents .. 2 new Autotechnica Bucket Seats :). Fully black also got a pair of black n grey ones but they wont suit the rest of my interior so im giving them to my bro.. making my whole interior all black apart from the white roof :D !

pic below ..

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Author:  green200b [ Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:37 pm ]
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Hey dude. If you get stuck let me know. I'll be getting an R30 diff soon from a wrecker so I could get you a gearbox too if you needed me too. Also I have an L24 flywheel here if you want :twisted:

Author:  Stephen [ Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:29 pm ]
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Thanks for that Al.

But im still keen on Nick's box :)

..little update,

Finally my new 72deg Wade 487 cam turned up along with the SWM HD Springs..

Looks the goods. valves springs are nice and stiff.. Just got to solve the old lash pad issue.. get some new or re-ground rockers and the head should be complete.

Still trying to figure out how much and what kind of head work i want to get done. its a W53 closed chamber with big valves. deshrouded around the valves. im thinking just match port to the manifold and leave it at that.

So far;

72deg Wade Cam
W53 Match port'd, big valves.
Twin 40mm's
L20B over bore 060" thou
Flattop Pistons
10.5:1 Comp.
Extractors
2" or 2ΒΌ Exhaust with hotdog and dump tip.

probably other things i can't remember atm.

Cheers,

Author:  Stoney [ Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:37 pm ]
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Go all out with the head, because you will regret it once it's back on if you didn't do as much as you could to it

Author:  green200b [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:39 am ]
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BruceSteve wrote:
Flattop Pistons
10.5:1 Comp.
So with the W53 head and the flat-top pistons, that will give you 10.5:1 compression? I've been told that's about the highest compression you'd want on a street motor. As it happens I'll be using that same combination in my L20B, by the looks of things :wink:
BruceSteve wrote:
But im still keen on Nick's box :)
Fair enough... :giggle:

Author:  lampy [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:16 am ]
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You have to watch the compression ratio when using flattops and a closed chamber head in a l20b.
Mine has 86mm flat tops
standard 40.5cc a87 head
.2 off block and head
The compression ratio is about 11.5

how did you get yours down to 10.5:1 stephen
mill the pistons?

considering how old datsun engines are they have probably been rebuilt before and the head and block skimmed. This can raise the compression ratio even more. Suddenly you might have 12:1 +

best thing to do is cc the head and cc the bore with the piston at tdc and calculate it out

Author:  green200b [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:54 am ]
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I was considering using Bluebird pistons, because I want to drive mine daily and not have it hate anything other than race fuel.

Author:  Stoney [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:17 am ]
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when i rebuilt my dads range rover motor, we got new high comp pistons for it and had to get new sleeves for it, in the end the compression ratio is above 10.5:1, runs dual fuel, bit better than when it was 8.5:1 :lol: saldy 98 is always needed now, it was supposed to be around high nines, but due to milled heads and decked block it was higher

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